Has the Coronavirus affected your travel? or will it affect your upcoming travel?
No to both questions.
Only if I get infected. I've flown 13 segs since 1/1, which have all included international gateways (ie. EWR, JFK, PHL, LAX, SAN, SEA), and have 6 upcoming between now and 3/27 plus 2 intl segs in April, and a few more flights booked out through June. Fingers crossed, no plans to change anything.
Here's where the experts recommend to sit on a plane to minimize odds of becoming infected:
I have been sitting up front in the 0% seats 100% of the time, and... so far, so good (knock, knock).
Not so far Troy. Too soon to know on whether it will but I am very iffy on taking a cruise and we usually do one of those a year. At another members suggestion, I am considering buying coverage for trip cancelation/interruption insurance on my trips to UK and Finland. So I guess that would be an impact.
As a frequent flyer commuter between Sacramento and Burbank on business has not caused a problem - yet. With the recent outbreak in Solano County (near Sacramento) this virus is an undetectable walking threat.
It's best to travel in caution knowing your hands are the spreading utensils (many current YouTube videos on this - take a look at Dr Lin's clear synopsis Facts about the Coronavirus by Dr. Peter Lin and CBC News - YouTube )
COVID-19 outbreak: Here's what's happening around the world Friday | CBC News
Good hand washing, don't touch your face when around public accessible surface areas such as airline seat tray tables, arm rests, etc. As Dr Lin suggests, the mask is to protect you from your own hands and the virus attaches itself through touch transfer as well as cough droplet. God bless and safe travels everyone!
Does anyone recall that disease outbreak that originated in Liberia (Africa) in 2014? It came into our country via JFK on a Delta flight (so it was thought). I traveled from LAX to JFK at right about that time, and I recall wiping my entire seat area down with disinfectant wipes, and wearing gloves, etc. and especially trying not to touch my face... Try not touching your face for 5 hours... Extremely difficult, if not impossible. Using a face mask, if for no other reason than to remind oneself to not touch ones face is a simple, but brilliant idea.
I have a cruise from Germany in April and I’m concerned what might happen as it’s MSC with 50 percent Italian cruisers and 30 percent Germans so will have to wait and see how it develops. As long as BA don’t cancel flights to Germany I’m getting on the cruise either way I can only imagine how amazing an empty ship would be ha. We are all bound to get it at some point I’ll just take my chances. I’m pleased I did my Japan cruise in November !
Not at all. Last 3 weeks - San Francisco, Hamburg, UK
Next week Costa Rica, then Norway, and Las Vegas.
No, I currently have 12 leisure trips planned & booked for the remainder of the year.
I use Lysol wipes to disinfect my arm rests, center console/recline button, seat belts, window shades, tray tables, overhead air vents & seat-back pouches for every flight as a precaution to remove any potential viruses/bacteria from those surfaces. I also use alcohol-based hand sanitizers like Purell liberally. I did all this before COVID-19 (COrona VIrus Disease 2019).
I am mindful that it may be next to impossible to prevent getting infected if an infected person is on my flight. I generally buy first class, so literally everyone in economy has to walk through the first class cabin to get to their seats...
I also have a stash of N95 respirators left over from SARS (2002-03) in case wearing those is a future recommendation.
I have been actually thinking it might be a good idea to board last, and plan to park on board items under the seat if necessary, and for which I often do anyway... (front of plane window sitter).
Was due to travel to Sydney next week to then cruise to Singapore. Cruise cancelled by Cunard. If they had not cancelled it i would have happily gone. All the indications are that the virus is dangerous to the elderly ( I am 68) and those who already have an underlying health condition. For most people it is a short term irritation and for the majority of people, they don't even know that they have it. Am I going to change my life for a relatively mild flu type bug? No am I h*ll!
Just something for all you panicking people out there to think about. Flu is responsible for 17000 deaths per year in the UK alone each year ( prostate cancer also kills a male every 45 minutes).
Corona has so far killed 2800 people world wide, less than the number who have died here from flue in the same period. Should we also be quarantined in the UK. Are you all going to stop coming here now?
Take basic hygiene precautions, yes!. Blow this evil little bug up into a major killer, so far this is totally not proven!
NO changes to Continental USA trips since Jan 1 (YVR,PHX,TPA, DFW,ORD, LAS).
YES to 3 Asia Trips:
Wearing a standard paper face mask for protection is a total waste of time. As soon as these masks become damp they are totally useless and in fact may act as a store for the virus, making it more dangerous to be wearing one than not.
No to both..Im going to keep traveling.
bay area is starting to get locked down. just canceled a big / important tech conference that was to be held this coming week. most of my team are canceling their travel. I am cutting mine in half, will cost me a couple big dollar Marriott nights, and most importantly at least half my customer meetings. will hurt badly. hoping this gets under wraps quickly or it could really hurt tech business in the coming months ... which then hurts travel for all of us in the business
Having gone through SARs in Toronto which had one of the first foreign outbreaks and eventually quite a few fatalities, it is not the brave people who want to carry on as if nothing is happening. It is the institutional restrictions that occur during an outbreak that make it difficult to do just the basic stuff. Hospitals have extreme restrictions, Retirement homes close to visitors and new patrons, commuter trains have restrictions, people get scared and don't want to come to work, meetings go remote, traffic becomes impossible because no one wants to commute on public transit, getting through security at the airport triples. Do not underestimate this. Yes a lot of people die from the flu and we spend a fortune preventing that but this may be a bit different.
As a number of you have probably read, the US has just confirmed its first death relating to COVID-19, an individual in the Seattle, Washington area (King County). There are a number of other reported or suspected cases popping up in this county of which most individuals have no known travel to infected areas and have had no known contact with infected individuals. This "community spread" is disturbing enough to have caused the Govenor of Washington to declare a state of emergency in order to free up maximum resources to combat this virus. This is serious and will have wide spread ramifications.
Yes, I was looking at flu mortality this season is roughly 0.06%, whereas COVID-19 mortality is about 3%, so it is quite a bit (50x) deadlier...
It would be really nice to know of those who have passed away (RIP), how many were dealing with health issues of any type and age groups? Maybe I've simply missed finding those things.
Iahflyr, so far it appears to be folks over 60 that are most effected. You can google it and there is a plethora of info.
The only trip I might reconsider at present is to Tenerife. The outbreak there is in the hotel next to the Sheraton at La Caleta! Was thinking about going there next week but decided on the Sheraton Fuertaventura instead, not because of the virus, but I like the resteraunts in Fuertaventura better!
How is the area by the Ritz-Carlton Abama?
I'm glad to hear others are having better luck (or are more confident) than me. As of today, I'm on track to cancel - or, at a minimum, postpone - my next three I have cancelled or postponed all international trips. Universities and international organizations (and, of course, major sporting venues) around the world are cancelling events at a prodigious pace.
Please keep in mind that (without suggesting panic, which is unhelpful) - one of the primary reasons why so few cases have been reported in the US is that, generally, as of now (early March) - we're not doing mass testing domestically, and most states/municipalities lack the resources to test. (In other words, before you get a false sense of security, consult the resources below....)
The GOOD NEWS is that - for most people - this will be primarily an inconvenience. (For better or worse, seclusion serves everyone well as the disease spread....)
I feel badly for the at-risk community - primarily the elderly, those who cannot stay home (or telecommute), or those without adequate health insurance, particularly in areas where the hospitals will become inundated/overwhelmed.
FYI - two of the best information sources include:
p.s. I must admit I'm curious to see - as the year progresses - whether loyalty programs (such as Marriott Bonvoy or United MileagePlus) will waive their annual qualification standards/minimums (for example, for folks who have qualified for high status many years in a row, but end up cancelling lots of travel). Time will tell.....
Hey, iahflyr, as of now (very early March) It's almost exclusive elderly (in the broadest sense - the number start rising at 50+ and then jump at 60+, then climb rapidly ... but, remember, the numbers are changing, dramatically, daily) and the already unhealthy so far. In other words, it's exactly who you would expect to be vulnerable. No kids, yet (fortunately)... Here's one data source: Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer
Good timing on your post. The only reason I logged on tonight was to post a thread on this topic.
I am generally not one to cancel any of my plans when due to a news report but this hasn't been my call this time around. About 85% of my travel is business related and that is taking a massive hit. I usually hit 75 nights by around October... not going to happen this year. Multiple business meetings and trade shows have been cancelled and/or rescheduled. My concern is that those reschedulings will coincide with other weeks I am booked for later in the year which, in terms of Marriott status, may as well be cancelled since I can only be in one place at a time.
I still may make 75 but it will be really, really close. Barring a disaster, 50 nights is a non-issue. Totally unrelated... does Marriott still have the "soft landing" status decrease?
These first class guys with their N95 respirators!
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