Does anybody have a definition of "All Qualifying Charges" as highlighted below:
Food, Parking, Resort Fee??
Food - yes
Parking - sometimes
Resort fee - no
Food would not be a qualifying charge if the hotel has outsourced their catering. That's excluded by "Charges that do not qualify for Points include ... charges for third party-provided goods and services at participating Marriott brand hotels or Ritz-Carlton hotels"
I guess you don't know until after the fact
For many restaurants, this may be a grey zone. I do think many of them will have external management, but the hotel will include the condition in their rental contract. I suppose it may cause a lot of callbacks from clients if suddenly the "it-that-looked-so-integrated-into-the-hotel" restaurant didn't give the points the guest was counting on.
At the one (soon to be two) hotel I stay at where this applies, it's very clear. The restaurant and room service menu are both branded "Carluccio's". On the invoice restaurant expenditure is shown as "disbursements" in the tax breakdown section.
I assume, although I don't know, that if I ordered room service in the middle of the night that would qualify for points because there's a page in the room service menu listing what's available between midnight and 6 am, and that has Marriott branding on it.
Just trust them that they will post the correct number of points. After all, what could possibly go wrong?
It sure would be great to see some simplification of all this duplicity when the platforms merge. This counts here, but not there. That counts there, but not over here. Come on! Does Marriott know how ridiculous this looks? Starwood has this in a much better place. We got “here“ one paper cut at a time. They get the opportunity to bring everything into alignment with this program merger. So, they can’t blame incongruent/incompatible systems this go ‘round. They get the chance to fix this, and should. The only way these little ”getcha gotcha” idiosyncrasies survive is if they want them to, and I think that profiteering would be the only motive. Well, looks like I just answered my own question - look for more of this mularkey coming your way soon!
Well, watch what you ask for... they could do 10 points/dollar across the board for all charges at all brands, or 10 points/dollar for room rate only across the board for all brands, or they could lower it to 5 points/dollar for all charges at all brands! eeek!
Don't even want to think what could happen with ExecuStay/Exec Apartments! Or the non-MR brand Bvlgari - 10 points/dollar at Bvlgari, where it actually deducts from your points total!
...or maybe 3 points/dollar at Residence Inns & TownePlace Suites, 7.4576 points/dollar at Marriwood brands, 6.7547 points/dollar at Starriott brands, and 12.50 points/dollar at Ritz-Carlton brands!
You are right o0o0o0o0o0o...points!, and I‘d never eat another bite in, or park at, a Marriott hotel again If that were the case. Points are the only reason I ever agree to those. So, go ahead Marriott, stick your hand in my other pocket. I get a vote here. Nickel and dime me, and I can nickel and dime you back. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, right? I Uber now to avoid hotel parking fleecing anyhow.... So, yes, you are right. It could go from bad to worse, but once the balance tips the way of the airlines, people will vote with their feet. That’s bad for business, and I am betting Marriott, in the end, is too smart for that.
I agree with you regarding parking. I calculate the car rental plus parking costs then compare that to Ubering everywhere I expect to go, then add a little extra for variance/unexpected trips. Uber (or Lyft) wins more often than not lately!
Even if Uber comes out slightly more, I choose Uber anyway because of the “convenience factor“, not having to bring the car to the rental drop-off facility, gas stations or finding parking/valet at restaurants!
I got our tickets for the Winter Carnaval via the front desk at the Delta. Let's see if I can figure out if they will give me points on that?
At my favorite Marriott beach resort this translates to:
3. Meeting rooms
5. Kids Activities
6. Beach/Pool rentals (Huts, Chairs, Umbrellas, Kayaks, Jet Ski's, Sail Boats, Catamarans, etc.)
The real question is how is this going to be handled with the new system? When you look at both programs - it's all over the board.
Although I have not tried it, some SPG hotel restaurants allow you to get points on dining, even if you ARE NOT staying at the hotel. Yet, my Starbucks coffee (poured from a thermos, and more expensive than the Starbucks nearby) and "bacon egg and cheese" product (little bits of bacon smashed into pre-cooked eggs) I consumed from the Courtyard earns nothing.
Not getting Marriott Reward points on Resort Fees is found in the urban dictionary under "ankle grabber."
When I stayed at the Renaissance Aruba last Nov I got points for floats rented, flowers ordered through third party. On the other hand in Lexington NYC the onsite restaurant Raffles did not even allow me to charge the dinner to my room, so no points there.
I don't think the Raffles coffee shop is related to the hotel. Same with the adjacent Starbucks.
Yeah thats what they said, but being on premise I assumed that I would be able to charge it to my room. If I had known before hand I would have dined elsewhere.
(since this is before ks83's time - a research project)
Aah grasshopper, that's why old geezers have learned to ask - virtually everywhere
You're going to be a superstar ks - hang in there (a DT would do you good). Keep on keepin' on
Thanks for the tip and the encouragement. If you dont make these mistakes how else are you going to learn??
Thanks all for the information - we'll see how it goes. No clue what to expect :/
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