very small profit
Wow, that's interesting! I do recall hearing on Inside American Airlines A Week in the Life of something similar in regards to profitability of an entire flight.
I don't like paying more but in the past the airlines were in the red a lot. How long could they continue before we would not have any. In the past, I traveled to Hawaii for under $200 round trip and not that much later, if one can get $600 that is good.
Very true! What airline do you fly to Hawaii? Sometimes Hawaiian has insanely low fares to and from LAX. Even HNL-JFK can be had for super low fares! Earlier this year I saw a RT fare of $450. Hopefully we'll see a fare special like that again in the future so I can take advantage of it
We recently paid $781 for our round-trip ticket from New Orleans to Honolulu on Delta. We flew to Hawaii on the Thursday before Thanksgiving and returned on Thanksgiving night. I was very happy with that holiday fare. We flew Hawaiian from Oahu to Kauai to Maui, then back to Honolulu. That was much cheaper than flying directly to Kauai and home from Maui. When we went to see the whales in February, we flew from Houston to San Diego, then San Diego to Maui, then back to San Diego, then back to Houston. I don't remember that exact fare, but it was very reasonable. If I lived on the west coast, I would be on the lookout for deals to Hawaii because I would want to go at least once a month!
Most often, AA because I have status. I do price the rest and would consider another if the fare was cheap enough.
Me too, though I don't have status. I prefer Oneworld and HA's HawaiianMiles redemption rates are ridiculous. I'd much rather earn on AA.
I am in agreement. I like to see corporations fly on their own strength and not be subsidized by the government. I would rather pay more if necessary to ensure that. I would also like to see airline employees compensated according to their worth if it would result in them being less grumpy.
I have read somewhere recently that checked baggage fees have increased industry revenue by billions of dollars.
Now however; even the worst U.S. (they know who they are ) airlines are making profits even with those insane taxes. Add in the baggage fees for those who check bags, fees for changes/cancellations, more leg room, window or aisle seat, early boarding and more elite access to security lines. Then the fees for extra service such as WiFi, DirecTV, food/drinks and the the nickle and dime antics aboard Spirit and Allegiant, the cost to fly is just about out of control.
Yes. They are now making huge profits. As a result, we know that the fees will not stop. Likewise the taxes won't stop either.
I was reading that in the new budget bill, supposedly without any new taxes, they are increasing the security fees from $2.50/segment to $5.80 one way. They call them fees as opposed to taxes and they don't have to use the extra money for increased security.
just read that Delta will now base status based on fares vs miles. I bet AA and United will follow so will hotels also
I saw that article too. I also got a letter from Qantas this morning. Big changes there too. We may be seeing a trend.
I got two of the Qantas letters myself--just so I would not forget them sending one or the other.
We had gotten a heads up about the change in airline frequent flyer programs and how some (Jet Blue, SW) would move to dollars spent for calculating miles earned. Has anyone who received the communications seen the effect on the actual award schedule?
Changing the miles earning procedures, is more of a going forward issue. Adjusting the award charts beyond the usual increase, could result in a significant devaluation (ouch). Has anyone seen the new Delta award schedule to compare it to the previous one? Thanks
It has been in the papers, including the WSJ, and they gave a good rundown of the winners and losers (hint: most of us are NOT the winners, but if you take last minute trips and pay huge dollars for the trip (or the company does) you win big time).
It appears that they only have award travel charts available for "travel booked prior to June 1, 2014" and "travel on or after June 1, 2014 and booked before January 1, 2015".
There appears to be no big differences between the award schedules I mention above, but I would think we are going to see an increase in the chart for post-January 1, 2015. Hopefully it will be released early enough to be able to fly using the old award chart.
Thank you jakeal, that's good stuff. You're a keeper - stay healthy!
"Jeff Robertson, vice president of Delta's SkyMiles program, said passengers earning more miles under the new system will account for a larger share of Delta's revenue than those who will receive fewer miles. The top 4% of Delta customers drive more than a quarter of its revenue. Mr. Robertson said it is important for Delta to give a higher rewards accrual rate to the passenger who spends thousands of dollars a year on Delta, has elevated elite status and may take many short but costly flights, than to an infrequent, leisure passenger.
Mr. Robertson said hundreds of customers in focus groups over the past three years indicated that the highest elite fliers felt under-rewarded. Customers also made it clear they wanted it to be easier to redeem miles and to have more lower-mileage award tickets available, he said. Delta has been rapped in recent years for having stingy awards ticket availability at the lowest mileage levels. He said the new program will improve award availability at the lowest levels.
Delta plans to introduce a system with up to five tiers of redemption choices so customers will have a wider variety of options, including one-way reward tickets and the ability to redeem tickets using both miles and cash, Mr. Robertson said. The new redemption levels will be disclosed in the fourth quarter. Delta intends to introduce functions next year that will allow customers to be able to use miles to purchase ancillary products such as seating in the roomier Economy Comfort coach seats.
As an example, he said, awards tickets to Europe, now priced at 60,000, 90,000 and 125,000 miles, could be broken into five tiers, including tickets for 75,000 and 105,000 miles. He also said the company plans to improve its website to make shopping and redemption simpler."
Uh oh, that's what I feared. Good stuff, stay healthy anadyr, I guess you're a keeper too
That's what my therapist tells me.
Well, he's just trying to finance his villa, I, prince of a guy that I am, actually care.
How do YOU feel about that Mr. Soprano, as Doctor Malfi often said.
Thanks anadyr. A more user friendly website to book award travel would be welcomed.
California on the other hand makes big bucks and profits on gasoline:
California's combined local, state and federal gasoline taxes total 72 cents per gallon, the highest in the nation.
(This includes the 3.5-cents-per-gallon increase approved in March 2013, effective July 1, 2013
You need to move to OK, Texas, or Fl!
It's only going to get "Worse"!
Ca is leading almost all tax rates, and last in business friendly environments!
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