dansplan, I really wanted to choose the last option... lol
But, you know I'm an opponent of constant increases in property categories. Many a blogger have stated that such behavior has made the Chase certificates all but useless for quite a few of us, and they're right. I haven't used that certificate in years. However, this year's changes aren't so bad. There's A LOT of them, but they don't really affect properties that I want to visit. Though this could be because many of the properties I want to visit have already hit Cat 8 or 9, or that economic recovery isn't going quite as planned.
Either way, I wish Mr. Sorenson would stop stating that he doesn't believe in devaluations when speaking to the media about the upcoming merger and Marriott's philosophy on rewards in general. It doesn't quite align with what's actually happening in my opinion.
I stilol argue that in order to say that these changes devalue the program, one should show that we get less for our money. If I pay $1500 for rooms, I end up with 30,000 points after cc and Plat bonuses.
If two years later, inflation drives the cost of those rooms rises, due to inflation, to $1,650 (consistent with what has been reported about room rates in the press) I will get 33,000 points.
If, on the average 33,000 points gets me, on average, the same rooms that I could have gotten two years earlier, then the program has not been devalued. Inflation has raised the cost of rooms, just as it has driven up the price of bee, pork, fish and chicken.
phctourist, I see your point and your argument is indeed valid my friend, but I think we need to agree to disagree
The reason being that, in my humble opinion, a loyalty program such as this is decoupled from macro economic forces. Loyalty programs shouldn't adjust themselves to the degree that hotels as a whole, based on inflation. To me, this is especially true when Marriott has stated (in the past at least) that categories are based on award demand for the property, which translates into some pretty wonky valuations. We have some less than desirable properties here in Hawaii that sell for less than $200/night, but are at categories 6 and 7. So when you look at MR points as a currency, as I do to a degree, it doesn't make sense in terms of value to be redeeming at that rate. This is why I see it as a devaluation.
Your interpretation makes perfect sense too, and I'd agree to a certain extent. It's just that the way in which I view the program, the points, etc. to me what's going on looks like a devaluation.
Your argument also makes sense. Different perspectives are always helpful in developing a better understanding of any subject. I would always rather discuss most issues with people whose perspective differs from my own. One never learns much from those with whom they already agree.
The specified item was not found. I think that our posts on this subject should be posted together, somewhere! I think it is great to respectively (and respectfully) disagree
That's a great idea phctourist! And I couldn't agree more. I hate talking with a bunch of people that all agree with exactly what I have to say. It is always nice learning about different perspectives.
Let me know, I'm down to a post with you on this topic!
So how do we do that?
That's a great question phctourist! Perhaps we can strategize something over direct messaging and have one of us, or a neutral party post it? Someone can begin a discussion?
I'll volunteer to be the neutral party, but only if you stop using the word "strategize"
lol fine dansplan. I accept your terms. What do you say phctourist?
I accept. I must point our that I have never used the word "strategize" on this site!
I guess you two should DM each other until you come up with a topic where you have different points of view. Not sure this will work or not, but DM me when it's sorted out.
dansplan, I believe phctourist and I will write about our takes on Marriott Rewards points and how we value them. How to structure the post will be a bit interesting.
I have to agree with kharada, where you may have had your sights set on a particular cat 7 property for a free night when you paid $1,650 for yours stay, that property has been boosted to category 8 and you now fell short in the number of points needed for the redemption.
Yes mikiegfla, this is a problem I've had too. Thankfully this year isn't so bad.
We're batting 1000 so far after 1 day - it's 8/8 for the 1st choice
Just like the change in seasons in the northern hemisphere - Spring comes every March as do changes in categories. It has become a regular occurrence.
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