Caught in the Crossfire: The Marriott/SPG Merger

Blog Post created by prnsesmaldonia on Aug 24, 2018

Days prior to the Merger I was trying to decide where to spend MR points and how best to utilize mine and my husbands last effort to purchase a travel package.  I finally got one and I was aiming for another when the transfer from my husbands got delayed and there were not enough points so it stalled.  Unfortunately I failed to keep looking thinking it was maybe too late since we were now on the eve of the 18th....

So now here it is the NEW LOYALTY REWARDS PROGRAM....and I am so confused.  Here is my first question/issue back in January both my husband and I had purchased MR points as reward members...NOW that we are under an entirely NEW program LOYALTY REWARDS can we purchase more points? I have read the new terms and conditions and it appears to me that we are "NEW" so it appears that we can as a new program begin afresh and if we desire can actually purchase up to the new maximum in points.  Second: because the new amounts for the travel package are so expensive I now wonder if it is really still a great deal.  So I am asking those of you that have figured this out to chime in and advise what you would do or what you are suggesting given the change in hotel levels and the new cost of the Travel/Hotel packages. 

Under the New Loyalty Program Terms and Conditions: section 2.8 and 2.8 c 

2.8 Transferring Points from One Account to Another


2.8.a.  In accordance with the conditions for transferring Points as described in Section 1.6.c. Members can transfer up to a maximum of 50,000 Points per calendar year between any two accounts in good standing that have each been open for at least sixty (60) days, whether sending or receiving Points.

2.8.b.  A new Member may receive a Points Transfer thirty (30) days after enrollment if the Account reflects activity including a Qualifying Stay or other qualifying activity as described in Section 1.6.d.  After ninety (90) days from enrollment, a new Member is eligible to receive a Points Transfer regardless of their account activity.

2.8.c.  Once per calendar year and only at the time of an Award Redemption, a Member may exceed the 50,000 Point maximum into the Loyalty Program account of a friend or family member in order to qualify for a specific Award in accordance with this section.  In the instance of transfer exceeding the 50,000 Point maximum only the necessary number of Points needed to redeem the specified Award, rounded to the nearest 1,000 Points, may be transferred - no more, no less.

2.8.d.    Authorization to transfer Points must be initiated by the Account holder with the Points to be transferred by contacting Member Support. The Account holder requesting the transfer must provide the Membership Number of the Points recipient at the time of the Point transfer request.

2.8.e.    Once the authorization for transfer is received and processed, the transferor relinquishes all rights to the transferred Points, and they become the recipient’s Points.

2.8.f.  Miles and Elite Night Credit cannot be transferred between Membership Accounts.


2.9 Purchase Points.

A Member may purchase or receive Points purchased by another Member for a combined maximum of 50,000 Points per calendar year.  Points may be purchased at the rate of $12.50 U.S. dollars per 1,000 Points and can be purchased in increments of 1,000.  A Member must be in good standing to purchase and/or receive Points.  A new Member may purchase Points thirty (30) days after enrollment if the Account reflects activity including a Qualifying stay or other qualifying activity as described in Section 1.6.d.  After ninety (90) days from enrollment, a new Member is eligible to purchase Points regardless of their Account activity.  The purchase transaction may take up to forty-eight (48) hours to be completed and for the Points to be transferred to the recipient’s Account.  Once Points have been purchased, no refunds will be permitted.  Purchasing Points using a Marriott Co-Brand Credit Card may qualify for earning Points in accordance with the terms and conditions in Section 6.

It does not mention anything about PRIOR to purchases Or so it seems.  And there does not seem to be any clear directive based on what I have been able to glean but for the record we have both purchased the Maximum MR points and I purchased the Maximum SPG during their sale and my husband has purchased about 10,000 points.  However, is this is a NEW program it appears that what we purchased prior to August 18th is irrelevant.. and almost as important is the question of COST of the new travel packages from the OLD. 

To purchase an exact package as I managed to do prior to the merge ,a level 5, Five night package was 235,000 MR points the same level for a 7 night will be 398,000 Loyalty points.  I will check again but they have not yet updated the 5 night package which is what I bought so that will reduce this a bit but I received 120,000 air miles which has been reduced to 100,000 thousand miles or of course 110,000 is going with United.  We have never flown united. so we would stick with the 100,000  

So is the Travel Package still a good deal? What do you all think?