I have 75 nights but my spend level is nowhere near 20k is there any good reason to stay more nights?
No in my opinion... I no longer put all my eggs in the one basket with top tier loyalty with these programs...nah.. I spread the love around... companies no longer value your loyalty... spread the love around... go top tier with Hilton or IHG Spire and you'll have many choices, great campaigns and options versus Marriott...for me, my limit is PLAT with Bonvoy.. the 4pm guaranteed late check out keeps me here..
I disagree. I rack up close to 60 actual nights a year. That's enough to maintain good status at one chain. If I tried to spread my nights around, I'd end up with low (or no) status at multiple chains. Though I'll never reach Ambassador status, I will still stay at Marriott simply to enjoy the status I worked so hard to earn.
It might be different if I stayed 100+ nights and could get mid to top level status at more than one chain. Since I can't, I'll utilize the Titanium perks whether I end up at 75, 85, or 105 nights.
I disagree It all depends on the individual circumstances. Not sure if biggdogg is a work traveler or a pay on my own traveler ( like myself).. if you travel for work to me it would make no sense giving one company all your loyalty - OPTIONS are critical and Marriott has been known for NOT having the best campaigns ( think of the current silly 1500 points for 2 night stay- right!).... So, I think individual circumstances will dictate just as in your case and my case...Cheers...
Why secure top status with any particular company if you have no intention of utilizing the benefits? You reach Titanium then leave? Unused benefits are the same as no benefits...
I think the question and responses are misconstrued...leave is a strong word.. nah... once you get the maximum status based on your needs, you obviously use them but dependent on your travel stays moving forward, you dont put your eggs in one basket... if you are company paid for work, dont put all your eggs in one basket but spread some around with top tier for other programs. I dont think anyone would obviously get top tier and never stay again.. I get my Hilton Diamond through status match - no effort - early in the year and making no effort to maintain unlike Bonvoy which I just need 50 nights to continue with the 4pm check out...
I don’t mean leave (never to return), just never to return for the current year. Seems counterintuitive to reach Titanium for the year, then not getting the benefits of Titanium for the remainder of the year, only to start at, say, Silver with IHG or Hilton, whatever. A status match only works periodically, so that’s not a sound strategy year-to-year.
If you do that, you’re not really reaping top-tier bennies in either program. It just seems wasteful. If you aren’t going to enjoy the titanium benefits, just working your way through gold & Platinum to get there, then leaving (for remainder of the year) to begin the process elsewhere, why waste you time?
Sometimes things put in writing are are misconstrued and the point gets missed... I think this is a classic example of the communication...so I'd rather drop this since the original submitter seems to drop the topic off and drop off the page! LOL... biggdogg
biggdogg is probably quietly watching and laughing as all of us old regulars fight it out by throwing up a question that there is no correct answer to. Just lots of strong opinions, all of which have merit.
We need more of this.
Yes, to enjoy the benefits you have earned. I'm not sure why you would stay elsewhere after earning benefits/status.
I think the question being asked is open to interpretation and we are all interpreting it differently.... I am assuming that you meant if it is worth it to ACHIEVE more nights past 75 nights while I think others are seeing it as it is worth it to STAY at Marriott past 75 nights? I would hope you stay and reap the benefits of your hard earned 75 nights but my logic is that if you already are at 75 nights for the year, you can utilize the option to gain top tier in other program and then next year you can review/decide where you go from there - and also are you a "work pay for my hotels" type or leisure type?
Yes, because you apparently enjoy staying at Marriott branded hotels either for work or play.
And an amazing portfolio of branded product to choose from!
The experience is what keeps me coming back for more. The points are just the thanks for the loyalty!
The answer here depends upon your travel. Personally I have work and leisure. Work is around 40 nights a year but often in smaller towns and cities where there’s no Bonvoy presence. Leisure is a mix of redeeming and paid making up another 40 nights, sometimes in smaller towns and cities where there no Bonvoy presence. Although now Bonvoy lifetime I always worked to ensure I made Bonvoy Plat each year and always managed IHG Spire too since IHGs Holiday Inn and Express properties are always available where there’s no Bonvoy. So I maintain 2 because I can and my work gives me no choice but to do so. bejacob perfectly describes how his travel patterns means he can’t make two programs work, so he doesn’t...
Yup. At this juncture for me its in for a penny, in for a pound. I generally stay at Marriotts after the 75 just to accumulate points.
I’m with you. IHG is a good back up chain and the oodles of points come in handy when you need a utilitarian hotel in the middle of nowhere, but with non-middle of nowhere rates, thus allowing you to save your Bonvoy points for the more desirable locales.
curious which Marriott Brand do you think Intercontinental racks up with ? brightlybob - your comment ?
I agree with many comments on here about how it depends on your travel needs. For me, it is about gaining as many points as possible while staying in comfortable and familiar places; then, converting all those points for fabulous vacations/events (Like ssindc recently posted about). If you can capitalize points, then yes I think it is beneficial to keep earning. Cheers!
Interesting thread... Some more food for thought:
I think this discussion raises the same types of issues many of confronted when we achieved our LIFETIME status - see, for example, this poll and thread: https://insiders.marriott.com/polls/1810
Uber-loyalty has its advantages. As arizonatag mentioned, high status plus a war chest of points often leads to really wonderful experience (such as mine, described ... at length ... here: https://insiders.marriott.com/message/284241 )...
Then, of course, there's this thread: https://insiders.marriott.com/thread/46081
GREAT THOUGHTS.... it all comes down to personal choice, possibly business choices as well and then again, Loyalty to the Brand. I used to be loyal to IHG for 27 years until they just could not get it right and then I now spread the love around. I am back with them as they have the most generous campaigns usually - like Accelerate - which Marriott campaigns IMO are lack lustre!
IHG is all about the points - loads and oodles of points. Swim in points, bathe in points! My latest Accelerate was accomplished in £300 of stays over 6 nights netting 70,000 points that are easily redeemed for £350! But as for loyalty - well 10 years at Marriott has seen me receive Lifetime Titanium. 10 years at IHG - Lifetime nowt!
Did you get any lifetime status from your 27 IHG years pat2927? - Honest question, did IHG once run a lifetime status through the legacy Priority Club scheme? I know they don’t in the current “IHG Rewards” scheme...
Good points.. I love IHG specifically for the points... when i traveled extensively for work here in Canada, me and all my 22 staff got lifetime PLAT through the fairmont hotels.... me also got Royal Ambassador through the IHG for 10 years which was great as we mostly stayed in Intercontinental hotels... now they are none in Alberta - back in those days, lifetime status was not something on my mind!
Definitely strategy-dependent. For me, I will try to rake points and enjoy the perks my status offers. As a result, I end up selecting destinations based on Marriott availability since there is no way I can achieve the same status with Hilton. I actually stayed at the Helsinki airport Hilton in May because there was no Marriott at Vantaa airport. But I booked it with Chase points anyway.
And since I live next to a United hub, I sometimes turn Marriott points to miles. And with United and Rewards Plus it is a better rate than 3:1 you would get otherwise. Also, I book Marriott through a United MileagePlus Shopping while Hilton is not playing the game.
awesome... but you can always status to Hilton DIAMOND status, try them out and make an informed decision moving forward, at least for the year while the DIAMOND status last...that's my strategy!
Why anyone (in the US) would status thru Hilton at this point boggles the brain - $450/year for Hilton Diamond by holding the Hilton Aspire AMEX, no reason to "earn" status at Hilton anymore (with 2 other cards conferring Gold), unless you are aiming for Lifetime status - and even then, you can manufacture LT status by holding credit cards. Manufactured LT Gold with AMEX Platinum, or Hilton Ascend, and manufactured LT Diamond with Hilton Aspire AMEX.
At least if you are going to "earn" status (unless you are outside the US), then choose something else besides Hilton!
The AMEX Aeroplan Plat serves me well and the only card I need since I have gotten so many free flights off it... Hilton Diamond is status match with no effort and provides options.... no more all my eggs in one basket with any loyalty program... nah!!
I’ve thought about this often. I’m lifetime Titanium with 82 nights already this year. I stay 3 nights a week in Chicago but found an Aloft with reasonable rates, quiet, clean rooms, and a great fitness center. With 75% bonus points I’m racking up points at a rapid rate. Allows for great vacation properties since Marriott is the largest and my points constantly replenish. Hard to change and find same or better situation.
I am lifetime Platinum, I can probably hit Ambassador this year, I would have for sure, but I've been going after my companion pass for Southwest, and it's a lot easier to get it by staying in Hotels, than flying, I have status match for Hilton , so I'm going to spend 2 of my work weeks bouncing around Hiltons for 8 nights, to keep my status until 2021. I really like how the status works at the major Marriott brands, so I will continue to book with them even after 100 nights
I still stay at Marriott brand hotels because I might as well enjoy the perks of having titanium elite status, and trying to maintain my titanium status year after year, until I hit lifetime platinum/titanium.
If you didn't hit Lifetime Titanium last year, then it is no longer possible to achieve that status (unless Marriott opens it up at some point in the future) - the highest lifetime status you can achieve now is Platinum.
Ah yes, you are right! I guess I’m chasing lifetime platinum then. But I’m hopeful that Marriott opens up the possibility of achieving lifetime titanium again....I’m hopeful. Not holding my breath though. ☺️
Good thread, I remember one of Kills99 (or another derivative) threads on this and a key factor was also how old you are. You are asking the question early in July, so I will assume you are around 75 nights now and travel a lot. It also appears that you frequent the lower price brands as you would have no chance of getting to 20 K. In Kills99 case he was chasing lifetime status in all the brands at the same time a relatively early age. I had multi brand loyalty most of my travelling years and one year had top status in multiple chains Hilton, Wyndham, Delta and Marriott. Some earned and some matched up. if you are staying more than 75 nights and can get a match up, then there is no benefit of staying just at Marriott in my opinion. I would even venture to say that that decision may be at 50 now as lifetime Titanium is closed and there really are limited benefits increase at Titanium. Looking back, if I had been strategic and knew what I know now I could have achieved lifetime in more than one brand and reached Titanium Lifetime in this one. That would be a huge advantage for me now as a largely leisure traveler as it would broaden my choices of price and location.
I think you hit all the points I was trying to make... 1000% agreement with you.. I was the same as well in my traveling days - top tier and match up in Best Western, Choice, Wyndham, Delta, SPG, IHG & Fairmont.. I was so busy focusing on work and getting a good night rest for me and my 25 staff, all we wanted was top tier and the benefits.. we even negotiated with some brands for standard upgrades, late check out, breakfast etc... the old Delta before Marriott bought it and Farimont was great to us... now I limit to 3 brands.. I see no value or loyalty in going over 50 nights with Marriott... none and no interest whatsoever - the difference between 50% and 75% bonus point is all that matters and I am a iesure traveler...so hats off to all the other company paid traveler!
For me in the working days sometimes in the back woods of Quebec and Lynchburg Virginia. Wyndham was my only choice. It had a great program. No lounges of course but I redeemed twice in Lake Buena Vista at an RI style property with the family. Fantastic, Where are you in Canada Pat?
In Alberta- Red Deer right between Edmonton and Calgary for the last 6 years... previous the big smoke Toronto for over 25 years.. u ?
Ah, I am so relaxed. With LT top-tier in both Bonvoy and Hilton, I never worry about nights any more; I just go with the venue closest to my client and know I am earning maximum points.
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